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Everythign dies Tier: If you have any of these you're fine | Everythign dies Tier: If you have any of these you're fine | ||
- | Quad/Octo VK | + | Quad/Octo VK\\ |
- | Quad/Octo strong atma | + | Quad/Octo strong atma\\ |
- | Illu (be it one, two, or gauntlet) | + | Illu (be it one, two, or gauntlet)\\ |
- | Rag (see above) | + | Rag (see above)\\ |
- | Shield Breaking | + | Shield Breaking\\ |
- | Throw | + | Throw\\ |
- | Ultima | + | Ultima\\ |
- | Jump setups sans FD | + | Jump setups sans FD\\ |
Ready for endgame tier: Will win the final battle but not as spectacularly as above | Ready for endgame tier: Will win the final battle but not as spectacularly as above | ||
- | Merton | + | Merton\\ |
- | Quad/Octo Sniper | + | Quad/Octo Sniper\\ |
- | Tek 7 | + | Tek 7\\ |
- | Bum Rush | + | Bum Rush\\ |
- | atma sans offering | + | atma sans offering\\ |
- | VK sans offering | + | VK sans offering\\ |
- | Stray Cat with a decent weapon | + | Stray Cat with a decent weapon\\ |
- | Grand Train | + | Grand Train\\ |
- | Lv3s | + | Lv3s\\ |
Midgame Tier: Will generally suffice on offense up to but not including KT. defensive help may be needed if this is all you have endgame | Midgame Tier: Will generally suffice on offense up to but not including KT. defensive help may be needed if this is all you have endgame | ||
- | Drill/ | + | Drill/ |
- | Sniper sans offering | + | Sniper sans offering\\ |
- | Lv2s/ | + | Lv2s/ |
- | Shock | + | Shock\\ |
- | Rod breaking | + | Rod breaking\\ |
- | Air Blade | + | Air Blade\\ |
- | Aero/ | + | Aero/Quasar\\ |
- | Situational Weapons (see the list below somewhere) | + | Situational Weapons (see the list below somewhere)\\ |
- | Dance with Landslide | + | Dance with Landslide\\ |
- | FD jump setup | + | FD jump setup\\ |
Earlygame Tier: Often enough to get past your first few battles, and little else. you are almost guaranteed to have something better by the end | Earlygame Tier: Often enough to get past your first few battles, and little else. you are almost guaranteed to have something better by the end | ||
- | Quad/Octo FD | + | Quad/Octo FD\\ |
- | Super Balls | + | Super Balls\\ |
- | Tek 1 | + | Tek 1\\ |
- | Pummel/ | + | Pummel/ |
- | Dance without Landslide | + | Dance without Landslide\\ |
- | Slot | + | Slot\\ |
- | Flare | + | Flare\\ |
- | Clean sweep/aqua rake | + | Clean sweep/aqua rake\\ |
- | High bpower weapons (sky render, aura lance etc....) | + | High bpower weapons (sky render, aura lance etc....)\\ |
Go grinding/ | Go grinding/ | ||
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TERRA | TERRA | ||
- | -in a terra start, doing SG first is a given unless chests are empty in your flags. prioritize this over any other non-locke opening. | + | -in a terra start, doing SG first is a given unless chests are empty in your flags. prioritize this over any other non-locke opening.\\ |
- | -quick check (whelk) | + | -quick check (whelk)\\ |
- | -peekable check (mobliz) | + | -peekable check (mobliz)\\ |
- | -long check (zozo) | + | -long check (zozo)\\ |
- | -grind check (lete) | + | -grind check (lete)\\ |
- | -third best weapon pool along with celes | + | -third best weapon pool along with celes\\ |
- | -best armour pool along with celes | + | -best armour pool along with celes\\ |
- | -above average str and hi mag if you like stats | + | -above average str and hi mag if you like stats\\ |
- | -checks are a mixed bag due to how varied they are | + | -checks are a mixed bag due to how varied they are\\ |
- | -usually one of the better characters | + | -usually one of the better characters\\ |
LOCKE | LOCKE | ||
- | -wor narshe should be automatic for your opening anytime locke is a starter / y remove is enabled | + | -wor narshe should be automatic for your opening anytime locke is a starter / y remove is enabled\\ |
- | -checking cursed shield if you get him late should be done only if you really need the defense / ultima offense | + | -checking cursed shield if you get him late should be done only if you really need the defense / ultima offense\\ |
- | -taking item over esper early is viable if you have terra / hi char requirements / low esper requirements | + | -taking item over esper early is viable if you have terra / hi char requirements / low esper requirements\\ |
- | -best weapon pool | + | -best weapon pool\\ |
- | -middling armour pool | + | -middling armour pool\\ |
- | -highest spd if you like stats | + | -highest spd if you like stats\\ |
- | -usable innate evasion | + | -usable innate evasion\\ |
- | -tunnelarmr check is fast | + | -tunnelarmr check is fast\\ |
- | -PC is long but at leastthere' | + | -PC is long but at leastthere' |
- | -drgn gater | + | -drgn gater\\ |
- | -usually one of the better characters | + | -usually one of the better characters\\ |
EDGAR | EDGAR | ||
- | -wob castle opening is a solid quick check, 4 treasures, and cheap items | + | -wob castle opening is a solid quick check, 4 treasures, and cheap items\\ |
- | -second best weapon pool (ter/cel + spears) | + | -second best weapon pool (ter/cel + spears)\\ |
- | -middling armour pool + red jacket | + | -middling armour pool + red jacket\\ |
- | -discount at fig castle, wor sf | + | -discount at fig castle, wor sf\\ |
- | -checks all synergize | + | -checks all synergize\\ |
- | -above avg str if you like stats | + | -above avg str if you like stats\\ |
- | -like celes, can abandon checks midway through (IE no ancient castle) | + | -like celes, can abandon checks midway through (IE no ancient castle)\\ |
- | -drgn gater | + | -drgn gater\\ |
- | -usually one of the better characters | + | -usually one of the better characters\\ |
SABIN | SABIN | ||
- | -wor tzen is a solid opener for treasure | + | -wor tzen is a solid opener for treasure\\ |
- | -4 quick checks with some loot | + | -4 quick checks with some loot\\ |
- | -train check is a bit on the long side, but thankfully peekable | + | -train check is a bit on the long side, but thankfully peekable\\ |
- | -very hi str if you like stats | + | -very hi str if you like stats\\ |
- | -awful weapon and armour pools, red jacket is nice though | + | -awful weapon and armour pools, red jacket is nice though\\ |
- | -usually not a strong character but his rando best checkset make him desirable nonetheless | + | -usually not a strong character but his rando best checkset make him desirable nonetheless\\ |
SHADOW | SHADOW | ||
- | -gau's dads house is free + an item shop, weak opening | + | -gau's dads house is free + an item shop, weak opening\\ |
- | -surprisingly hi innate evasion | + | -surprisingly hi innate evasion\\ |
- | -doggo | + | -doggo\\ |
- | -hi spd if you like stats | + | -hi spd if you like stats\\ |
- | -bad weapon pool | + | -bad weapon pool\\ |
- | -middling armour pool | + | -middling armour pool\\ |
- | -veldt cave reasonably quick | + | -veldt cave reasonably quick\\ |
- | -FC is usually not worth abandoning midway through and is long | + | -FC is usually not worth abandoning midway through and is long\\ |
- | -lackluster checks and no longer guaranteed to have throw, shadow is not automatically top tier like the earlier days | + | -lackluster checks and no longer guaranteed to have throw, shadow is not automatically top tier like the earlier days\\ |
CYAN | CYAN | ||
- | -mt zozo is an okay opener but be wary of no warp access | + | -mt zozo is an okay opener but be wary of no warp access\\ |
- | -wob doma is nice and quick | + | -wob doma is nice and quick\\ |
- | -dream like FC is a commitment but unlocks all teks as a bonus at least | + | -dream like FC is a commitment but unlocks all teks as a bonus at least\\ |
- | -awful weapon pool | + | -awful weapon pool\\ |
- | -middling armour pool | + | -middling armour pool\\ |
- | -hi str if you like stats | + | -hi str if you like stats\\ |
- | -drgn gater | + | -drgn gater\\ |
- | -like shadow no guarantee of swdtek makes him less desirable overall, but if you have the command hes nice to find | + | -like shadow no guarantee of swdtek makes him less desirable overall, but if you have the command hes nice to find\\ |
GAU | GAU | ||
- | -trench has one non time wasting chest and is reasonably quick | + | -trench has one non time wasting chest and is reasonably quick\\ |
- | -meat requirement / rng for veldt can be a chore | + | -meat requirement / rng for veldt can be a chore\\ |
- | -worst weapon pool | + | -worst weapon pool\\ |
- | -bad armour pool outside snow muffler | + | -bad armour pool outside snow muffler\\ |
- | -outrageous bat power if you care | + | -outrageous bat power if you care\\ |
- | -two skills make him highly variable, he can be awesome, he can be useless. his checks certainly suck though | + | -two skills make him highly variable, he can be awesome, he can be useless. his checks certainly suck though\\ |
CELES | CELES | ||
- | -looting SF is another no brainer start, right below a locke or terra start | + | -looting SF is another no brainer start, right below a locke or terra start\\ |
- | -mtek is one of the best checks period, two quick spots for espers and you can bail on the long section if not out of options/ | + | -mtek is one of the best checks period, two quick spots for espers and you can bail on the long section if not out of options/ |
- | -opera house is a bad check unfortunately | + | -opera house is a bad check unfortunately\\ |
- | -third best weapon pool along with terra | + | -third best weapon pool along with terra\\ |
- | -best armour pool along with terra | + | -best armour pool along with terra\\ |
- | -average stats across the board if you care | + | -average stats across the board if you care\\ |
- | -probably second best check pool after sabin | + | -probably second best check pool after sabin\\ |
- | -usually one of the stronger characters | + | -usually one of the stronger characters\\ |
SETZER | SETZER | ||
- | -kohlingen opening has a couple chests as well as shopping | + | -kohlingen opening has a couple chests as well as shopping\\ |
- | -darryls has a good amount of loot and is quick | + | -darryls has a good amount of loot and is quick\\ |
- | -dg is the fastest check period but can be lucked into without him | + | -dg is the fastest check period but can be lucked into without him\\ |
- | -awful weapon pool | + | -awful weapon pool\\ |
- | -middling armour pool | + | -middling armour pool\\ |
- | -bad stats if you care | + | -bad stats if you care\\ |
- | -usually one of the weaker characters but has a decent checkset | + | -usually one of the weaker characters but has a decent checkset\\ |
MOG | MOG | ||
- | -one annoying check but at least there' | + | -one annoying check but at least there' |
- | -awful weapon pool (spears only) | + | -awful weapon pool (spears only)\\ |
- | -bad armour pool outside muffler | + | -bad armour pool outside muffler\\ |
- | -basically requires dragoonboots to be usable in more than half of all seeds | + | -basically requires dragoonboots to be usable in more than half of all seeds\\ |
- | -often one of the worst characters | + | -often one of the worst characters\\ |
STRAGO | STRAGO | ||
- | -no obvious opener | + | -no obvious opener\\ |
- | -worst check pool | + | -worst check pool\\ |
- | -worst stats sans Gogo if you care | + | -worst stats sans Gogo if you care\\ |
- | -bad weapon pool | + | -bad weapon pool\\ |
- | -bad armour pool | + | -bad armour pool\\ |
- | -likely the worst character in the rando | + | -likely the worst character in the rando\\ |
- | -insert grumpy old man memes | + | -insert grumpy old man memes\\ |
RELM | RELM | ||
- | -no obvious opener but has 2 quick checks, one of which is peekable | + | -no obvious opener but has 2 quick checks, one of which is peekable\\ |
- | -hi mag power if you like stats | + | -hi mag power if you like stats\\ |
- | -bad weapon pool | + | -bad weapon pool\\ |
- | -decent armour pool | + | -decent armour pool\\ |
- | -usually an average character | + | -usually an average character\\ |
- | -murderchild is somewhat over rated | + | -murderchild is somewhat over rated\\ |
UMARO | UMARO | ||
- | -single check synergizes well with wor narshe but can hardly be called an opener | + | -single check synergizes well with wor narshe but can hardly be called an opener\\ |
- | -pretty bad without equippable flag, but still better than almost everyone else early game | + | -pretty bad without equippable flag, but still better than almost everyone else early game\\ |
- | -yeti relics should usually be avoided | + | -yeti relics should usually be avoided\\ |
- | -cant summon | + | -cant summon\\ |
- | -cant mp crit, hates illu/rag | + | -cant mp crit, hates illu/rag\\ |
- | -offering will half damage from his tackle, avoid | + | -offering will half damage from his tackle, avoid\\ |
- | -enormous stats if you care | + | -enormous stats if you care\\ |
- | -actually quite decent outside final battle if equippable, but absolutely not top tier | + | -actually quite decent outside final battle if equippable, but absolutely not top tier\\ |
GOGO | GOGO | ||
- | -nice if annoying opener with a good amount of loot. warp access ideal however. | + | -nice if annoying opener with a good amount of loot. warp access ideal however.\\ |
- | -bad stats if you care | + | -bad stats if you care\\ |
- | -cant summon but can mimic summons in fringe scenarios | + | -cant summon but can mimic summons in fringe scenarios\\ |
- | -mimic saves breakables/ | + | -mimic saves breakables/ |
- | -can literally do anything you want | + | -can literally do anything you want\\ |
- | -bad weapon pool | + | -bad weapon pool\\ |
- | -bad armour pool | + | -bad armour pool\\ |
- | -like gau he is as awesome or awful as the skills you have access to. better than gau though since he has every skill youve unlocked sans morph | + | -like gau he is as awesome or awful as the skills you have access to. better than gau though since he has every skill youve unlocked sans morph\\ |
for people that absolutely want a tier list considering the above, here: | for people that absolutely want a tier list considering the above, here: | ||
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Best | Best | ||
- | Terra | + | Terra\\ |
- | Celes | + | Celes\\ |
- | Edgar | + | Edgar\\ |
- | Locke | + | Locke\\ |
Good | Good | ||
- | Sabin | + | Sabin\\ |
- | Shadow | + | Shadow\\ |
- | Gogo | + | Gogo\\ |
- | Cyan | + | Cyan\\ |
Average | Average | ||
- | Relm | + | Relm\\ |
- | Umaro | + | Umaro\\ |
- | Gau | + | Gau\\ |
Bad | Bad | ||
- | Setzer | + | Setzer\\ |
- | Mog | + | Mog\\ |
The Worst | The Worst | ||
- | Strago | + | Strago\\ |